Methamphetamine crystallization and Ice manufacturing

[Lordoftheshard]

Only d meth makes shards and there are many tech To do so
I'm going to set the record straight this fester crap about HCl gassing gives you Ice and shards is bullshit it only works if you use freon or liquid nitrogen if going to use HCl has
The best shards are made buy doing a 20%dh20rexal of the the tritated fb oil to pH 5.8and the crystallizing dish of Pyrex tray left in a cupboard under UV black lights and.must not be disturbed at all for at least a week minimum it takes time to make superior product
I'll tell you all another trick if you just pH your FB oil and just leaves it alone it will evap and dehydrate to ice to this is how the Chinese do it it's all about being patient
But this gassing in toluene and ether will only make you a powdered product that will have to be rexalled to make Ice only freon or liquid. Nitrogen will make instant I'ce once the HCl gas comes in contact with it

 

[G.Patton]

I'm sorry, what is "buy doing a 20%dh20rexal"? And what is "UV black lights"? Do you know that UV can't be black? =)

 

[41Dxflatline]

A "black light" is a specific range of UV that is almost invisible until it vibrantly reflects off of phosphors in the environment. You'll have seen it before. People use it to find blood and cum that has been cleaned up and club/rave atmosphere

 

[jboogie]

im calling bullshit on this thread too. as someone who has been around enough, this isnt how its done. i see no references to freon and acetone, the bit about acetone froze for 2 weeks (wtf is that bullshit? like it makes it colder for longer? stfu), and furthermore the bit about amphetamine hcl at the end pissed me off. nobody is making amphetamine hcl xytls. ive been alive since PPA was legal and made my fair share of substituted amphetamines and one of my first failures was trying to gas PPA reduced via rp/i, aka amphetamine, and i can tell you it doesnt. you will always end up with a hygroscopic compound that turns to a puddle of yellow on the plate.

you want biggest shards? you rextylize from water. you want fastest shards, you go acetone and freon/hcl. that last way is how they rock up MSM with it at the end. just saying. meth is disgusting anyway.

my spidey sense is tingling with this page. somehow the people running are using some targeted campaign to recruit people and it feels off. as a former mod from the hive, zones, wd etc. something doesnt feel totally right about this group. it exists smack dab in the middle of uncannyville. you have been warned. YMMV.

 

[G.Patton]

Depends on your HCl gas. In case you use wet HCl, you'll get a puddle. Nevertheless, amph*HCl not so god idea. It is well known fact.

 

[41Dxflatline]

I've made it. You can make sure its thin on the plate and it absolutely dried to a brittle solid after leaving the dish on a 70C heated printer bed. Most of it was a translucent granular wax though, and thats the form it spends most of its time in.

 

[adrenochrome]

Thanks to everyone for the advice, but honestly none of them work (except for the UV method), I spent 2 weeks on these experiments and it turned out that the crystals come out only when you do recrystallization from methanol. SO guys, before advising something, make sure for yourself that it works and don’t copy from the Internet and paste it here, all the best

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

what is the UV method, can you go in detail?

 

[adrenochrome]

sorry, under UF (ultraviolet)

 

[WinterDust]

@btcboss2022

What route do you use to make Crystal D-Methamphetamine?

Best regards

 

[btcboss2022]

L-Tartaric acid route.

 

[WinterDust]

I was thinking more of what you do to crystallize the final product.

 

[btcboss2022]

I have posted my crystallization method of MDMA is practically the same one.

 

[WinterDust]

I habe read about this route in the post here.

But I have not read of anyone ever doing it with success.

Besides MDMA, that is the route you use to crystallize your methamphetamine to ice?

Best regards

 

[adrenochrome]

in general, I did the separation with the help of l-tartaric acid, and when you add water to a mixture of tartaric acid , a precipitate forms in the meth, the question is what kind of salt is it?

 

[btcboss2022]

I don't understand this sorry.

 

[Lordoftheshard]

It all depends on how your meth was made in the first place if using psuedo or ephedrine you produce dmeth which can be simPly tritated to pH 5.8 with HClacid the FB imTalking about the place in a cupboard to evaporate ti I've shard this is how the Chinese do it or there are few variants adingn dh2o and so forth

 

[adrenochrome]

from O,O'-dibenzoyl-2R,3R-tartaric acid

 

[WinterDust]

I clearly tagged btcboss2022.

You already basched us here from your previous post and were done.

So I wish you luck in your future endeavers.

 

[btcboss2022]

I don't use this product.

 

[Re186]

At what degree Celsius is acetone frozen to be used for flash crystallization?

 

[G.Patton]

-17*C is enough

 

[Mr Good Cat]

Tried to acidify and crystallize relatively small quantity of MDMA freebase.

The weight of the freebase after extraction and ether purification is 40 gr. Calculated volume of HCl = 16.41ml.

The intention was to add the acid, then heat it up to 130C, and drop into the acetone 5-10 volumes and leave it in the freezer.

This time I did it very slow for some reasons, but involuntary. So all the acidification took approximately 30 minutes against planned 15. Magnetic stirrer was used intensively. Resulting PH=2.5

Then when approaching planned volume, I relalized all I have in the beaker on the stirrer is pure white powder. I dropped it in some volume of frozen acetone but rather to wash it as it doesnt look there is any more to crystalize.

Probably all the water evaporated due to the heat released when the acid dripped.

Not sure is it good or I made some serious mistake?

 

[Mr Good Cat]

I mean, the solution all turned to the dry powder right in the beaker without any extra activities from my side.
Of course, the freebase and acid were from the freezer.

 

[G.Patton]

Hello, dear. I would like to ask you why do you heated the solution? It isn't needed. Also 5-10 volumes is too much. 1-3 is okay.
What is concentration of your acid? 35%? You need about 18 ml in this case.

It is okay

It is not okay. Too low. 5-5.5 is the low point, which is recommended.

 

[Mr Good Cat]

36-37% acid
any way I was mostly watching as the color of freebase changes, and it fits
I didn't heat while dripping the acid. It was used for the stirring only.
2.5 it was the solution, the salt itself shows 5.5.

 

[kharpa177]

did you do this crystallization with heating? or with negative temperature? Could you explain to me how I crystallize the free base at negative temperature

 

[Mr Good Cat]

of course I didn't heat it intentionally. the heat releases itself as the result of acidation.
in my case the mistake was to do it too slow: try to finish all the estimated volume of HCl in 15 minutes.

 

[G.Patton]

You have to avoid local overheating. The reaction (acidification) time don't play role in this procedure. Temperature and well stirring are main characteristics, which has the most effect on the reaction.