MDMA synthesis via NaBH4 from MDP2P

[bitcoinup2020]

Please help explain more information in this section.
The mixture is stirred for 2 days. The stirring time can be reduced to 4 h for people in a hurry, 10-20% will be lost.

After adding all the sodium borohydride (NaBH4), we can reduce the stirring time to 4 hours right now, can I do the next step? or must complete 48 hours

Thank you very much for the answer.

 

[G.Patton]

Hello. There is clearly written that yes, you can. You will lose about 10-20% yield.

 

[bblanco]

i scaled it to 10gr mdp2p.. haha if you know how i, as 6 week old suburban sjamaan worked to something which i made following these steps but only as 1234... i did not use stirrer, vaccum pump jadaa. in the 6 weeks destroyed my 2 bigggest rbf and when needed sep. funnel BAM ... no funnel for me anymore...
did not waited like mentioned just stirred and put some swung in it in ended up with as i would describe described kind of mdma... its a start but i want to see crystals... but.. most talk here is theoraticly... im different... as i had to know if mdma, filled a capsule like 13-14 h ago... under 200mg.. look it misses 2 aspects which i remember MDMA which i describe the yawning folllowed by the tunnel flows over in a x amounts of hours pink sunglasses vibe and just love...
that was 10 years ago.. now no yawning no real tunnel... for the rest i think higher dose and i would be 100% but at least it fucking sweet..

 

[JESSIE]

can you directly use methalymine 40% in methanol instead of disolving the gas ( should you handle other ratio)

 

[G.Patton]

Hello, yes, you can.

 

[JESSIE]

thanks for the contribution

 

[rothschild33]

I might be missing something but at 'MDP2P reduction to MDMA', wouldn't adding HCl lower the pH level? if the pH level does go low, should it be countered with adding more NaOH?

 

[G.Patton]

Hello, which HCl addition step do you mean? There is correct manual.

 

[rothschild33]

 

[G.Patton]

You don't need to change any. pH is lowered in the water layer, which will be extracted and than discarded

 

[Wendy]

Why do we have to partially neutralize free base after imine reduction?

 

[G.Patton]

Do you mean the acid addition? It allow us to get rid of sodium borohydride excess after reaction.

 

[bitcoinup2020]

Can we dissolve 300g of Methylamine HCL (10%) in 3000 g of Methanol and then add NaOH to convert Methylamine HCL to Methylamine Freebase instead of compressing 300g of Methylamine gas (10%) in 3000 g of Methanol? If yes, how many NaOH should we use gram?

Thank you very much for the answer.

 

[G.Patton]

You can dissolve 300 g methylamine free base by any convenient for you way. 300 g of Methylamine*HCl contain about half of hydrochloric acid. Hence, if you make your manipulation with Methylamine HCl in MeOH solution, you'll get at least half of necessary quantity of methylamine free base.

P.S. Please, read and learn Moles, grams, litres and chemical calculations in Laboratory FAQ section and count it by yourself.

 

[bitcoinup2020]

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[Stretcher5335]

Can this be used as a starting material

 

[rothschild33]

what's the CAS?

 

[Stretcher5335]

CAS # 1205-17-0
3-(1,3-Benzodioxol-5-yl)-2-Methylpropanal

 

[workworkwork]

What type of overhead stirrer is acceptable for this reaction?
I bought a cheap one from Aliexpress sold by Vevor. And I bought a second one more powerful with 200w. Now I'm afraid that stirrers are dangerous for this reaction. I will be adding borohydride 5 in 5 minutes and there will be hydrogen production that is an explosive gas.
I learned there is 2 types of stirrers, brushed and brushless, maybe because of that some cost 200 euros and others cost 800. Do I have buy a 800 euros stirrer?

 

[AKWA]

Why do you think overhead stirrers are dangerous for this reaction?

 

[workworkwork]

I bought 2 cheap stirrers from aliexpress. I was thinking they were good to start. But the difference between a 200 euros stirrer and a 800 is not only the durability as I was thinking. Maybe the cheap ones I bough from aliexpress are not suitable for this reaction and I will need buy a 800 euros stirrer from a good brand. Not sure if the cheap one make sparks and if sparks is a problem or not in this reaction, if the H2 production is enough to make an explosion. Or another problem I'm not thinking yet.

 

[Studenttt]

I have 40% Methylamine in Methanol Solution, can i put 750 ml for 1 liter of pmk?

 

[workworkwork]

This?
Methylamine (40% in Methanol, ca. 9.8mol/L)
9.8 mol x 31g = 304g, so exactly 1L solution per 1L MDP2P

 

[Studenttt]

Okay thank you verry much,
so i can just put 1 Liter methylamine 40% in methanol on 1 liter mdp2p is not needed to put extra 2 liter methanol on it?

 

[bmkadbbsupplier]

yes