MDMA/ecstasy purification method

[Mdp2p]

I did it like this a long time ago:



1 Liter of Ipa (isopropyl alcohol) 99% laboratory grade (the "drugstore" grade does not work)

1 Liter of 99% acetone ("drugstore" grade does not work and less than Mercadona)

1 glass of 1 liter

1 hot plate (but since not everyone has it, a double boiler is an option)

1 laboratory thermometer

That's all.


For each gram of Mdma we need 3.50 ml of ipa (measurements are very important!)

We put the ipa in a beaker and also a thermometer touching the ipa
We heat the ipa to 55 degrees (do not exceed 60 degrees)


Once we have that temperature, we put the Mdma and it will dissolve



Cover the glass with a piece of paper and leave it at room temperature for 4 hours.



After those 4 hours it should be in the fridge for a day



the day after freezing for another day and the crystals are already forming



First batch:
Pour the dirty ipa into another glass and put it back in the freezer.

in the beaker with the crystals we add acetone (half ipa) the beaker is so cold that the crystals dissolve and the acetone blocks it.

approximately in an hour that same acetone we overturned it in the dirty ipa glass

We let the crystals dry for a day.

Why do we add acetone to the ipa? Because there are still crystals, but we need acetone, otherwise the crystals will not form.

With the discarded acetone we add it to the dirty ipa glass from the freezer. Without the acetone, the second batch of crystals won't form!

these crystals will take longer to form, leave them in the freezer for a few days

We took out the glass and threw away the dirty ipa.

We add acetone so that the crystals do not dissolve. When the glass is at room temperature, we throw away the acetone and let the crystals dry

 

[Mr Good Cat]

As I understand, MDMA solubility in boiling IPA is around 1.4 ml of IPA per 1 gr of chloride.
May be, you can specify what is MDMA solubility in IPA at RT and frozen IPA?

 

[Mr Good Cat]

I empirically found interesting fact. Solubility in IPA depends on purity.

I had two batches, one after ABE, pure white, another one brownish after crystallization in water.

Both batches were solved by weight in IPA from the same bottle under T=65C.
Chloride weight - 70 gr
IPA weight - 193 gr

First flask dissolved completely.

Second flask got a problem with dissolvation: I had to add 9 gr of IPA to solve it completely. IPA weight was adjusted at the point of complete dissolvation in order to replenish the evaporated.

Also, as crystallization run, chloride flakes were seen floating on the surface in second flask. That wasn't noticed in first. Obviously density is different due to contaminants.

 

[Macondor]

Hi, i make a lot of purification of shity mdma, and now i have a problem.
I make the acetone washe, was nice i color not too bad.
Then disolve in hot IPA (very nice color clear) a crash crystals ,filter and dry.
Disolve again in IPA I want to make big crystals ( i do a lot of times) in hot satured IPA and seed the solution, this time i let the solution in the hot plate at 80 celcius all the night, the other day when i was going to start the slow ramp down temp for the grow... i see all The solution Dark! very nasty. i shut off the heat and let cool. Ends worse than when it started the really dirty shity sugared crystals. I let dry and make other acetone wash.. and have a looooot of oil when i evap the acetone from the second washes..! !
What the fuck is the redish dark oil? is soluble in water/alcohol/acetone

Maybe the heat can degrade MDMA hcl, or some impuritis?


PD: What you think about the antisolvent crash with acetone/ipa? when is better?
Can be a good one... free base the MDMA extract with diethyl ether and recrash with a few ml of chlorid acid 37%?

thanks boss

 

[G.Patton]

Hello, your MDMA reacted with oxygen in air. What a sense of heating at 80*C at night? I guess, all IPA was evaporated and your product was heated in a beaker at 80*C. You need to heat the solvent in order to increase MDMA solubility in the minimum amount of the solvent. Then, cool down it slowly in order to grow crystals.

Read more about Recrystallization and hot filtration

 

[Macondor]

i promt the A/B method and was a success.
thanks!

 

[G.Patton]

It is okay for MDMA.
It will.

http://bbzzzsvqcrqtki6umym6itiixfhni37ybtt7mkbjyxn2pgllzxf2qgyd.onion/threads/mdma-synthesis-via-nabh4-from-mdp2p.5188/

http://bbzzzsvqcrqtki6umym6itiixfhni37ybtt7mkbjyxn2pgllzxf2qgyd.onion/threads/complete-mdma-synthesis-from-sassafras-oil-with-al-hg.20/

 

[Macondor]

You are amazing man, not words with u!!

 

[Mr Good Cat]

Interesting.

I just started re-cystallization in IPA on water bath. Let's see what I will get in the morning. The intention is to decrease temperature of water in pan 2C per 30 minutes.

But I also don't understand what is the reason to keep it under 80C for the overnight. Solubility is always the same at the same temperature: no matter how long you heat it - 10 minutes or 10 hours.

Also a question: you mentioned a flask. Do you mean Erlenmeyer flask?

Considering black MDMA, I also got strong impression, the salt degrades while heated. Every time I heat the chloride it is getting dark.
Even, when I acidify washed in ether FB, then as I heat it up to 130 it is getting dark.
Then, I wash salt is acetone in volume proportions 1:10, and re-crystallize fresh salt by heating up to 100+C it is getting dark again.

 

[Mr Good Cat]

I've heard this black color is a common issue with MDMA made from PMK..

Today I think the best way is to acidify FB with 37% HCl in cold acetone: no heating, and powder in result is pure white.
Probably slow re-crystallization in IPA from 60C down to RT is also more gentle for unstable molecule inclined to degrade.

 

[Mr Good Cat]

Now I have 100% evidence long time exposure of MDMA at high temperature affects the color.

I use different crystallization methods and it is not a problem for me to get pure white crystals. Normally it doesn't take a lot of time for heating, and crystals are perfect white.

But this time I tried to do something new for me just to make crystals bigger and more transparent: "Per aspera ad astra".

I used the same batch of pure white powder after ABE, as solution was ready it had the same color as usually, transparent slightly brownish. I left it on the hotplate for 10 hours, T mostly 40-70C.

Unfortunately, I did a mistake in my calculations, and my expectations were not met. As the result I had to re-crystallize all this batch. As I made my solution ready for re-crystallization, it was much worse then before.



Still it is open question, what it is. It could be carbon of carbolic acid. Also it could be a natural property of salt to get dark while heated: jewelers ofter use it, and heat stones for long time to change the color.

But I noticed the solution of MDMA HCL that was not purified with base extraction gets much more dark brown and even much more fast.

So, I believe, still there is presence of some side product (not a lot, may be 1-2%) that turns black while heated.

 

[G.Patton]

Hi, a lot of organic compounds have tendency to become darker after heating. Air oxygen reacts with it under increased temperature well. Also, dimerization may take place to be.

 

[Mr Good Cat]

Can someone explain me the cause for such separaton by layers, pls?

 

[G.Patton]

I can't but this mdma looks quite good

 

[Mr Good Cat]

yeah, product is ok.
this medium layer also looks more dark not because excess of contaminants, but due to such funny crystals formation.
i think it is due to different modes of temperature control.

 

[Mr Good Cat]

just got result from a lab for this batch - 87%. not bad, but not impressive at all.

some more details about this batch here: http://bbzzzsvqcrqtki6umym6itiixfhn...n-mdma-freebase-hydrochloride.8258/post-40785

 

[Mr Good Cat]

@G.Patton , general, IPA is very good to remove certain compounds (side products of synth) from mdma. But my real pain in the ass is huge volume of hydrochloride left in IPA that I need to recover. Now I think if using ethanol I can get bettter result? Is there any well known route for mdma hcl washing in ethanol?

 

[G.Patton]

MDMA*HCl soluble in methanol, it may be soluble in ethanol as well. I don't remember for sure.

 

[Mr Good Cat]

I'm also thinking about glicerol usage in purification process as a triple-atomic alcohol it may work. Will come back to the work in a couple of days and post the report.

 

[Mr Good Cat]

@G.Patton general, just curious if you have any idea about different solvents for mdma purification by base extraction like pro and contra: hexane, dcm, petroleum ether?

My personal observation is that ether dissolves quite a bit of base. As my experience says, to dissolve 1 gr of base you need about 3 ml of ether. But I'm interested not only in volume (and cost) but in minimal solubility of side impurities as well.

I guess hexane used for base extraction is cas 64742-49-0 (isohexane)?

 

[G.Patton]

Unfortunately, I haven't carried out such research. Can't answer you certainly.

 

[w2x3f5]

Vacuum distillation of free base with a reflux condenser and separation of the dissolved product into fractions depending on the boiling point will give you maximum purity and minimal loss of substance.

 

[K53SK53S]

Hello friends, thanks for the contribution, it works very well but I have a doubt, when crystallizing (crystals precipitate very very well) I do not get crystals like the typical ones of mdma, it is something more similar to snowflakes, to ice frost in a glass on a snowy day, it is glass but very fragile. Why can't I get strong glass? Thank you and greetings

 

[G.Patton]

Hi, you are welcome! Do you use a fridge for the crystallization procedure? The faster cooling down, the smaller crystals.