Amfetamine synthese in één pot van P2NP met NaBH4/CuCl2 (schaal van 1 kg)

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Kookplaat, verwarmingsmantel (kan te veel zijn, zelfs op laag), zeker geen open vuur.
 

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100% zeker dat ik in grammen volgende batch foto's zal maken. Ik heb 254gr freebase uit 287gr P2NP.
 

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Ik kreeg niet veel zoutneerslag toen ik fosforzuur toevoegde aan mijn 67g p2np batch.
Zal dit veranderen tijdens het invriezen? Ik dacht dat ik de instructies goed had opgevolgd.
Ga je na het toevoegen van p2np meteen over op cucl of moet ik wachten tot het niet meer reageert?
Ik heb het na het toevoegen van de loog geschud en ongeveer een uur laten staan, en bij het extraheren met ipa heb ik het laten scheiden en toen 3/4 keer opnieuw gemengd.
Ik heb de ipa vacuüm gedestilleerd bij 50-60oC, was dit te heet?
misschien heb ik het te snel aangezuurd, want mijn sep funeel had nog steeds de waterige laag (ik doe 2 ipa extracties voor het geval dat) dus ik gebruikte een spuit en het was niet precies druppelsgewijs....
Iemand een idee? Ik zal een update geven nadat het een nacht in de vriezer heeft gelegen.
 

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Habe es auch versaut beim ersten mal gucke grad nach lösungen und schließe mögliche fehler aus. Hat sich bei dir auch nur ein kleiner teil umgewandelt und es ist größtenteils flüssig geblieben?
 

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Was your freebase purified? This reaction produces quite alot by-products so it's absolutely required to steam distill the freebase. Put 1ml freebase oil on petri dish and let evaporate. If the residue is not white it's not pure. If it's not pure and you turn it to salt, your power doesn't dissolve in water easily and yoy'll get sick if you take it.
So this was the boiling temp in the flask or bath temp? Not sure if too hot when I did it the BP was ~38 C while the water bath was kept < 60 C. (The BP only depends on pressure so higher bath temp. only makes it boil more violenly at same temp.) Do normal distillation of your vacuum distillate and see if anything solid remains in boil flask.
Might be dissolved in the water in it.
 

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Good to know the destillation is essential for this process thanks. I kept the oil and will try to purify it with destillation and see what comes out.
 

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Ik hoorde van patton hier dat je het eerst moet verwarmen. Iets wat ik nog nooit heb gedaan met zwavelzuur, maar mijn zuur is dan ook vrij zuiver.
Bestel uit Polen als je in de EU bent, ze verkopen je vaten van letterlijk alles lol
 

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Darfst du mir hier verraten woher du die schwefelsäure beziehst oder muss ich dir privat schreiben? Habe grad probleme welche zu beschaffen nur phosphorsäure iaz für mich aktuell laufend zugänglich.
 

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Hi. Can someone tell me what the cost of ingredients and equipment for producing 1kg is? I would be grateful if someone could tell me if it is enough to scaling up everything to get a larger amout or does that cause any discrepancies? Also can someone tell me what is the CAS of this final product?
 
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It would be really REALLY great if someone could run a TLC analysis of the products from this reaction. I've read that NaBH4/Cu reduction mainly produces N-hydroxylamines instead of amines for alpha-alkyl nitrostyrenes. Because of similar melting points for their salts and similar boiling points, the only way to separate and identify N-OH-amphetamine is by chromatography. The N-OH product is also active as a stimulant but it is different to amphetamine. I wonder if this is really true.
 

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what source reports this information?
all compounds tested with qualitative and quantitative analysis
N-OH group can be formed as an intermediate compound if the experiment is not carried out correctly
 

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Yes, I should have probably researched this a little more before posting here, apologies. The source for this comes from amateur chemists and there aren't any official publications to support this
 

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Is so much NaBH4 really necessary or is it excessive
 

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So. You get this pure amphetamine. How much would you cut it ? 1kg amph turn to 2kg ? Because amph cheap profit should come from cutting it or I am wrong?
 

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Our team is study science methods for obtain only pure individual substances. We do not support and do not give recommendations for dilution this compounds to increase mass, yields
 
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