Η σύνθεσή μου 3-CMC

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αυτό είναι σπουδαίο.

γιατί πιστεύετε ότι ο καταψύκτης σας έδωσε περίεργα αποτελέσματα κατά την κρυστάλλωση;

Πόσο καλά νομίζετε ότι αυτή η μέθοδος κλιμακώνεται;
 

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Λόγω του νερού, όταν αυτό παγώνει, από πού θα πρέπει να προέρχονται οι κρύσταλλοι;
Το κανονικό ψυγείο ίσως λειτουργεί, αλλά έχω τα τρόφιμά μου μέσα και δεν θέλω να το καθαρίζω κάθε φορά.
Πραγματικά δοκίμασα πάρα πολλούς τρόπους για να φτάσω στο τελικό προϊόν και επίσης σπατάλησα πολλούς διαλύτες και 2b3c επίσης, αλλά ο τρόπος που περιέγραψα λειτούργησε για μένα καλύτερα από τις άλλες δοκιμές.
Σχεδόν μπερδεύτηκα από όλες τις διαφορετικές μεθόδους, όλα αυτά τα διαφορετικά μικρά μπολ με διαφορετικά μείγματα στέκονταν παντού, πάντα παρακολουθούσα, ποιο από αυτά αναπτύσσεται καλά και ποιο όχι.
Για παράδειγμα, όταν βάζεις παγωμένο ipa στο νερό/σκόνη κρυστάλλωσης, παίρνεις αμέσως κάποιους λευκούς κρυστάλλους αλλά δεν είναι διαυγείς και μόνο λίγους, sp πρέπει να κρυσταλλώσεις ξανά και οι υπόλοιποι πρέπει να εξατμιστούν, κοίτα τελευταία εικόνα.
Οι άλλες 3 εικόνες δείχνουν τι συμβαίνει στο rm στην κατάψυξη μου, γίνεται μια στερεή μάζα που λιώνει σε θερμοκρασία δωματίου, αλλά όχι κρύσταλλοι.
 

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it depends on how much material you want to dissolve and the water to alcohol ratio.
 

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Is it possible to make 3mmc in powder ? Everyone is talking about acidification with water or acetone and then straight to dish and evaporate. But maybe it is possible to make it like 4mmc. Just putting HcL straight to washed rm and powder forming. Is it possible with 3cmc ? And how to do it with dcm ?
 

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I dont want to disapoint you, but no... how much i know ( i read all topics about 3cmc). Just evaporation way
 
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But its strange, becouse everythime when i wash stuff with acetone I put acetone to fridge, and after some time i get 3cmc powder. why its not happening when acidifying with acetone from begining..?
 

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I have tried reaction with toluen,and then tried to put only HCL,so I’ve got some powder. But yield was only 25%
 

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I tried this also. 1st time my HCL was 80% (it perfectly fits for H2O acidification in proper amount) but when only HCL, everything BURNT :)), and second time with 26-38% so drop was sticky flufy mass(then you need MUCH work to get crystals from this shit, and yeld was about 35%.
By the way, in market there is 28% HCL, it comes from latvia.. that shity HCL makes problem with acidification, purple or emerald color goes on, and really hard to achieve optimal ph. All latvian chem in shops ar shit, so dont be fooled.
 
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Yeah,I have used 26-38% hcl and get 25% yeld.
 

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Same, always had 25-30% after several washing and recrys...there are methods with more yield for sure, but my experiences were always around this amount
 

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Then u how made u get only 30% haha I get minimum 60% i wait week and get crystal if i need powder easy get out in freezer form dark Orange oil all water take out
 

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