Question Recrystalization of P2NP

KokosDreams

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Hey folks,

as I am ordering my first P2NP soon I am looking for advice for the following subject:

Recrystalization of P2NP

I have read some things about this process in the forum and understood that it is recommended not only proof the quality of the P2NP but also to improve it's quality if it should be worse than wanted.

A user recommended to search for 'Isomer Seperation' I tried to find more information but couldn't.

I am now looking for a guide that explains how the recrystalization of P2NP works and what equipment + chemicals are needed for the procedure.

Any help would be highly appreciated.

Cincerly,

Koko
 

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This is fuel I bought at the exact same time. And as clearly stated contains methanol. So if its not possible to get p2np from nitomethan then I'm lost. Just waiting on MP test
 

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Recrystallising P2NP

The main reason for recrystallisation is to increase the yield of certain reductions by removing any unreacted aldehydes in this case benzaldehyde, if you are working with amounts >0.5 mole, then we recommend at least one recrystallisation, although it is not essential.

It is a simple process and product losses are less than 5% instead of the more usual 20 to 25% loss in many organic chemistry recrystallisations.

PPE: Ideally wear a pair of disposable nitrile gloves underneath a pair of butyl gauntlets, at a minimum two pairs of disposable nitrile gloves.

Recrystallize using 99.5%+ isopropanol at 60°C / 140°F (no higher).

Note: Weigh empty flask, weigh IPA in a measuring cylinder, weigh P2NP on scales, weigh after addition of product to calculate losses of IPA through evaporation, and at the end weigh final amount of dry product after all crops to calculate your yield.

In an erlenmeyer flask (reduces product loss through evaporation):
Add P2NP at 2 g / ml of isopropanol (even though alot more can dissolve in 1 ml isopropanol, purity would be reduced).
Once dissolved, hot filter any undissolved contaminants if required, filter through your buchner funnel using a fast filter paper or higher porosity frit and have a little additional isopropanol already at 60°C / 140°F to rinse any crystals on filter/frit, then cover your erlenmeyer flask with film or foil with a couple of small air holes either side.
Allow to cool to room temperature by placing in a dry dark undisturbed place at least for a few hours after which you will see yellow crystals forming, move to the refrigerator for a few hours before filtering the crystals that will have formed.
Return filtrate (mother liquor) to refrigerator for a day to allow the remaining crystals to drop out of solution, if you know there is negligible water content within the filtrate you can place in a freezer to speed formation of crystals (if there is any water content this is not such a good idea as you get slushy darker crystals.

Ideally use a Buchner funnel with fast filter paper or higher porosity frit to filter the pale yellow crystals, return filtrate to freezer for additional crops, then rinse with ice-cold isopropanol (save this filtrate for future rinses, and collect crystals formed within it from time to time), finally rinse with distilled water to remove any catalyst and allow to vacuum dry in funnel for 10 minutes (the water filtrate is disposed of).
Finally vacuum dry crystals in buchner funnel for 15 minutes, once dry, weigh crystals and carefully transfer to an air-tight PP container and place in cold storage.

The above recrystallisation procedure can be repeated another couple of times to be able to achieve a purity of 99%.

There should be no orange crystals or red product - rinsing with ice-cold isopropanol will remove any outer layers of red polymerised product.

Note: The warmer the storage temperature the quicker nitrostyrene's polymerize. Viable crystals can be stored in a refrigerator (0 to 5°C / 30 to 40°F) for 6 months, or a freezer (-5 to -15°C / 20 to 5°F) for 2 years or more.

If you do not have a buchner funnel and vacuum source, then you will have to gravity filter, using beaker that a funnel can sit on, place 2 coffee filters and pour crystal and IPA mixture in, now place everything in a refrigerator to filter and then dry before storing.
 

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I don't know why I doubted you. MP 55°C ISH what I would call nitro styrene
But yes 1-nitro-2-phenylethane as the educated would say.
Is there any thing I can do with nitro styrene? Got 500-600g of it or do I just bin it and follow some tried and tested literature instead of substituting things where and when I want.
Sorry g. Patton proper fan boy.
 

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I know application for substituted nitrostyrenes only. Probably, just get rid of it. :(
 

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Easiest method for making P2NP is mix 710ml benzaldehyde and 500ml nitroethane (clear solution) then 35ml n-butylamine, seal and shake to thoroughly mix so fumes stop, liquid is now yellow. Unseal and (if you have a drying tube attach with an alkaline dessicant or molecular seives 3A) now leave in dark dry place for 4 weeks, at the end you will have mass of solid yellow crystals (yield 78 - 92%).
 

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Interesting approach :) Compared to other methods that require 1 night in a freezer, 4 weeks seem pretty long tho
 
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