Price insanity for 2-bromo-3-methylpropiophenone compared to 2b4m + some quotes to compare

[PharmacopeiaLabs]

its simple, one is a precursor to an illegal product (4-MMC), which translates to normal to low demand, so lower price.
the other one is a precursor for 3-MMC, which is still in the gray area legalwise for a big part of the world and many are taking advantage of it, and that translates to high demand high price.

4-MMC is illegal everywhere, but 3-MMC for some reason instead of being categorized as a schedule I drug by the UNODC it was categorized as a schedule II, go figure.., So it still is in the gray area of legality for many countries and that's why you can find it for sale on RC shops and smartshops, it also has 3 clinical trials going on at the moment by 3 companies, Clearmind Medicine is researching 3-MMC as potential treatment for dyskinesia, MindMed has already filled a patent to use 3-MMC for PTSD, and believe it or not, a small Dutch company called Period Pill had its first clinical trial complete in the university of Maastricht researching 3-MMC as a potential treatment for menstrual symptoms, their first clinical trial is marked as successful, even though its hard to imagine what the results were..

 

[HIGGS BOSSON]

I don't agree with you. The cheaper price of 2B-4MBK is due to the fact that mephedrone is more popular in the world, as a result of which this precursor is produced by many factories in huge quantities. The second is that 3-methylpropiophenone is synthesized more difficult than 4-methylpropiophenone, which is why its cost is higher. These two factors affect the price difference, that is, the popularity of the substance reduces its price due to competition, while 2B-3-MBK is a custom-made item.

 

[PharmacopeiaLabs]

its not like 3-MMC was not popular, even VICE has an episode on it, until around a year ago it was everywhere in Europe for even cheaper than 4-MMC, EUDA reported 750kg of seized 3-MMC in 2020, it became very popular very quickly, until it just disappeared, also 3-chloropropiophenone can easily be turned to 3-methylpropiophenone ,so its not difficult or expensive to obtain the materials.

 

[TheVacuumGuy]

Could be wrong, but If it was that easy, nobody would pay ~2500usd/kg 2b3m. They would just turn 3chloro to 3methyl easily and brominate to 2b3m themselves.

 

[TheVacuumGuy]

Maybe the answer of the high price is the following message I received from a manufacturer which concerns me.

 

[TheVacuumGuy]

something is buggy here, copy of the concerning message

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Unfortunately, this product (2-bromo-3-methylpropiophenone-1451-83-8 ) is controlled by government and there is no manufacturer can offer it.
So it is not available at the moment.
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[PharmacopeiaLabs]

so 2-bromo-4-methylpropiophenone legal, but 2-bromo-3-methylpropiophenone illegal?
it doesn't sound right, mainly because its the 4-m that came first.
in any case, you can turn 3-chloropropiophenone to 3-methylpropiophenone by yourself and not worry about Chinese laws.

 

[TheVacuumGuy]

Is there anyone with knowledge whether the liquid form can be used in the same manner as the powdered version? eg : dissolving => amination => acidification. i wouldn't see a reason why not, but thats, well.. me.

 

[PharmacopeiaLabs]

liquid 2-bromo-3-methylpropiophenone?, am 99% sure that its just the crystals dissolved in a solvent for more discreet shipping by the Chinese (probably) vendor.
from what i see the mass production of these haloketones has been taken by india, you might have better luck with Indian suppliers and websites.
also, according to EUDA, china indeed banned 2b3m, and the reason 2b4m is still legal is because apparently its a great chemical to make solar modules because it can convert sunlight to electricity very efficiently (no joke)

it also appears that vendor Pinkman in the forum already has 3-MMC, pretty cheap too, also now supported with 2 reviews, this could mean someone is making it again, so i wouldn't be surprised if europe gets flooded again with 3-MMC (illegal this time) in a few months.

 

[BabaNest]

You are assuming the vendor is selling real 3-mmc, which, without a lab test these days is highly unlikely.
Most probably it's 2-mmc or 3-cmc or some other analog.

 

[PharmacopeiaLabs]

i see your point, but remember that BBgate is not a vendor shop, its a community, and not a very big one, if the descriptions of a sellers products are false, it wont take long for the negative reviews to turn his account useless for selling.

Also, don't forget that you are covered by escrow, when you receive the product you could send a sample to a drug testing lab without yet releasing the money, if the lab results come negative you'll have some proof to provide for your refund dispute for false advertising, if results come positive, you found what you're looking for and you are just a bit late on releasing the funds.

 

[BabaNest]

You are more optimistic than I am for sure.
Maybe it's cause I bought and tested from 5 vendors in the past 2 months, all coming back negative (none from BBgate).
But yeah, the only way to find is to keep looking

 

[Anarchy Labz]

I am guessing because the process is more complicated, you need 3-methylbenzaldehyde to make 3-methylpropiophenone instead of toluene which is used to make 4- methylpropiophenone.

 

[MacondoRC]

Hello friends!

I'm glad to join your forum. I came across your article and wanted to add a few words on the subject.

Buying 3-mpf from China is indeed associated with significant difficulties and inadequate market prices. However, it's quite readily available on the Russian market for $300 or less. People interested in this product should look for it in Russia.

 

[MacondoRC]

Taken from the website of a legal reagent store in Russia. 3-mpf is still legal in this country.