Verbeterde synthese van 4MMC

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What’s the most efficient procedure to the synthesis of 4-MMC? This is a question that appears quite frequently on this forum and with multiple ways of doing this synthesis it can be confusing for novices and amateurs or even more experienced clandestine chemists. We developed a procedure that should be quick, easy follow and should give high, consistent yields (providing that the quality of the involved chemicals is appropriate). Now this is a rather small scale example which we advise all beginners to work with until mastering it, scaling up to vessels manipulable by hand (10-20L) shouldn’t be hard to do as long you are well aquatinted with smaller batches (increasingly larger).

Required materials:
GLASSWARE/EQUIPMENT:
  • Reaction flask 250mL (round, flat or Erlenmeyer)
  • Magnetic stirrer (simple one will do)
  • Beakers (One for drying, one for precipitating and one for depositing at least)
  • Separatory funnel 250ml
  • Vacuum filtration apparatus
  • Graduated cylinder 1x100mL+1x10ml (or 25mL)
  • Scale 0.01g accuracy
  • Ph paper
  • Pipettes 2ml (a couple)
  • glass stirring rod
REAGENTS/SOLVENTS:
  • 2-bromo-1-(4-methylphenyl)propan-1-one(4’M2BK)
  • Dicloromethane (DCM)
  • N-Methylpyrolidone(NMP)
  • 40%aq. methylamine (M40)
  • Distilled water (tap water may be also used)
  • Acetone 200-400ml (cold)
  • Conc.Hcl aq. @~37% 5-6ml (cold)
  • Anhydrous magnesium sulfate(MgSO4)
PROCEDURE: (synthesis performed by HerrHaber & AgamemnonFromTroy)

20.0g (0.087mol) of 4’M2BK where added to a 250ml flat bottom flask equipped with magnetic stirring.
15ml of NMP where added to the R.F. and stirring is turned on. (Fig.1)
30ml of DCM where also added to the R.F. right after. (Fig.2)
25ml of 40% a.q. monomethylamine freebase is added to the R.F. in one portion (fig.3), and a timer/stopwatch is turned on before a rubber stopper with a needle (so that pressure can escape) is added to the neck of the R.F. stirring intensity is increased and a timer it set to 30 minutes (25-40 depending on case and scale in general bigger batches need more time).
Over the course of 35 minutes the colour developed from the milky white(fig.4) to this strong yellow(fig.5). When the color stops intensifying in yellow (not orange) and exothermal phenomena subside the reaction is quenched with 60ml H2O added in one portion. (fig.6)
The R.M. is transferred into a sep funnel (fig.7)where it was washed another 2 times with 60 more mL distilled water and the pooled a.q. washes where then placed into a separate beaker (fig.8). The organic layer is drained into a separate beaker and dried over anhydrous MgSO4(fig.9). The washes where then extracted with 10-15mL dcm and the non polar DCM layer was placed in the same beaker with the organic layer (fig.10). The beaker with the DCM layers where dried for several minutes and placed into the fridge to cool (15-20 minutes).
*Dry acetone and conc. HCl a.q. are also advised to be freezer cold before proceeding.
The acid is added dropwise to the freebase in dcm mixture under fast stirring (fig.11) whilst also adding slowly increasing portions of acetone occasionally (fig.12) in the mean time… pH should also be monitored (don’t forget to moist the indicator) and should be fine around 6. Some where at 2/3 or 3/4 of the final mixture should be acetone in the end and it normally precipitates as a solid block that needs to be broken up with a glass rod (vid.1). This was vacuum filtered and washed twice with cold acetone.

Theoretical yield: 18,74g (4MMC HCl)
Practical yield 15.89g (85%) fig.13

Using this method our highest yield was 92%.
Note that we have used this procedure with varying degrees of success with other substituted methcathinones (3-chloro is a bitch to precipitate and also to recrystallise). Hope this was easy to follow and wish you the best luck!

P.M. Feel free to add your thoughts and results as well as problems you shouldn't but might encounter so we can help. The main reason for small batches is not to feel guilty for you being wasteful miss interpreting our writeup.
 

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*Fig 7 and 12 where missing*
 

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may I ask how you prepare your 40% methylanime freebase sol. ? You called it freebase, which I understand is you’ve prepared yourself, would you mind to share it ?
 
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Methylamine is een base en het geconjugeerde zuur is methylammoniumchloride (ook bekend als methylamine hcl).
Wanneer je de vaste stof, kristal, methylammoniumchloride gebruikt, voeg je een sterke base toe die de binding verbreekt en methylaminegas vrijmaakt. methylamine is een gas bij atmosferische druk en temperatuur. Dit kan in vitro worden gedaan of je kunt het gas uit het zout en de base in een geschikt oplosmiddel zoals wayer of methanol pompen (bellen).
 

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In de meeste gevallen wordt 40% waterige oplossing van het freebase aminegas gebruikt indien van toepassing, zoals de relevantie van de aanwezigheid van water, waarbij als er behoefte is aan freebase het watervrij 30% in droge MeOH kan worden gekocht, wat ik nooit heb geprobeerd, maar ik wed dat het zou kunnen werken, hoewel in dit specifieke geval de aanwezigheid van water tot op zekere hoogte nodig is om het methylaminehydrobromide te vormen en vast te houden, zodat het kan worden verwijderd bij het opwerken.
 

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How if i have ethyl acetate and dmso can do the same ?
 

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yes you can but there's a chance it may go rainbow
 

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***We made a small mistake: for 20g of bromoketone 35ml of 40%aqmethylamine solution and 60ml DCM!!! Apologies***
 

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I'm interested in what the N-methyl-pyrolidone does because in EA I didn't use it, and there no pyroll moiety on 4-mmc
 

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NMP is used as a polar aprotic co-solvent, it functions as a Phase transfer catalist because our reaction involves two immiscible reactants (DCM organic phase) and M40 aqas phase) the NMP makes it so that the two phases mix better and that's why fast stirring is crucial. NMP can also be replaced by DMSO.
 

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Maakt dat het niet moeilijker/moeilijker om het te scheiden? Aangezien het een kation is, zou het met iets moeten reageren, ik denk het methylanion van de methylamine...?
 

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Je hebt gelijk, NMP geeft de voorkeur aan water boven DCM en daarom wordt de organische laag daarna grondig gewassen met water.
 

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What is the point if NMP as a second solvent in the first place, and can it be substituted by a different solvent that is easier to obtain the hellscape called the EU?
 

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DMSO en DMF hebben vergelijkbare eigenschappen, maar ze kwijtraken kan een beetje lastig zijn
 

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Some things I noticed while drawing that picture
1. You definitely don't NEED N-methyl pyrolidone, I see this synth in the same solvent without it.
2. N-methylpyrrollidone is a cation with no anion
 

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Het lijkt gewoon magie te doen als co-oplosmiddel in het versnellen van de reactietijd en kinetiek die zijn effect laat zien, zelfs op kleine verhouding tot de gebruikte dcm en met nog wat trucs voorgesteld in eerdere threads leek het mijn techniek te verbeteren.
 

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How are you sure thats 4mmc tahts 85% by grams of 2b4m?
 

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Het berekenen van de procentuele opbrengst werd gedaan op basis van het vergelijken van de mol geïsoleerd product met de hoeveelheid mol die alleen theoretisch verkregen had kunnen worden.
 
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How are you sure its pure product so it contains that amount of grams *
 

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My 2nd rule is: distillation 24/7 :) it just happens that i have mounted aparature for whole day... thinking about another one :) just all the time I am missing solents, yet its distilling all the day... i suggest just finding place on table and do this :)
 

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that is something on my todo list as well. using new solvents every time is becoming quite expensive too
 
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