Síntesis de anfetamina en una olla a partir de P2NP con NaBH4/CuCl2 (escala de 1 kg)

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Placa calefactora, manta calefactora (puede ser demasiado incluso a baja potencia), pero sin llama abierta.
 

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100% seguro que en gramos siguiente lote voy a hacer fotos. Obtuve 254gr de freebase de 287gr de P2NP.
 

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no he conseguido precipitar mucha sal al añadir ácido fosfórico en mi lote de 67g de p2np.
¿cambiará esto durante la congelación? pensaba que había seguido las instrucciones bastante bien.
después de la adición de p2np es completa ¿vas directamente a cucl? o debo esperar a que deje de reaccionar?
lo agité después de añadir la lejía y lo dejé durante una hora aproximadamente, y al extraer con ipa lo dejé separar y luego lo volví a mezclar 3/4 veces.
he destilado al vacio la ipa a 50-60oC, ¿estaba demasiado caliente?
la verdad es que no se si es demasiado caliente, pero si que es demasiado rapido, ya que mi sep funeel todavia tenia la capa acuosa (estoy haciendo 2 extracciones con ipa por si acaso) asi que use una jeringuilla y no era gota a gota exactamente...
la verdad es que no me ha gustado nada, pero si que me ha gustado.
 

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Habe es auch versaut beim ersten mal gucke grad nach lösungen und schließe mögliche fehler aus. Hat sich bei dir auch nur ein kleiner teil umgewandelt und es ist größtenteils flüssig geblieben?
 

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Was your freebase purified? This reaction produces quite alot by-products so it's absolutely required to steam distill the freebase. Put 1ml freebase oil on petri dish and let evaporate. If the residue is not white it's not pure. If it's not pure and you turn it to salt, your power doesn't dissolve in water easily and yoy'll get sick if you take it.
So this was the boiling temp in the flask or bath temp? Not sure if too hot when I did it the BP was ~38 C while the water bath was kept < 60 C. (The BP only depends on pressure so higher bath temp. only makes it boil more violenly at same temp.) Do normal distillation of your vacuum distillate and see if anything solid remains in boil flask.
Might be dissolved in the water in it.
 

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Good to know the destillation is essential for this process thanks. I kept the oil and will try to purify it with destillation and see what comes out.
 

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He oído decir a patton que hay que calentarlo antes.Algo que nunca he hecho con el sulfúrico, pero de nuevo mi ácido es bastante puro.
Pedir a Polonia si estás en la UE, que le venderá barriles de literalmente cualquier cosa lol
 

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Darfst du mir hier verraten woher du die schwefelsäure beziehst oder muss ich dir privat schreiben? Habe grad probleme welche zu beschaffen nur phosphorsäure iaz für mich aktuell laufend zugänglich.
 

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Hi. Can someone tell me what the cost of ingredients and equipment for producing 1kg is? I would be grateful if someone could tell me if it is enough to scaling up everything to get a larger amout or does that cause any discrepancies? Also can someone tell me what is the CAS of this final product?
 
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It would be really REALLY great if someone could run a TLC analysis of the products from this reaction. I've read that NaBH4/Cu reduction mainly produces N-hydroxylamines instead of amines for alpha-alkyl nitrostyrenes. Because of similar melting points for their salts and similar boiling points, the only way to separate and identify N-OH-amphetamine is by chromatography. The N-OH product is also active as a stimulant but it is different to amphetamine. I wonder if this is really true.
 

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what source reports this information?
all compounds tested with qualitative and quantitative analysis
N-OH group can be formed as an intermediate compound if the experiment is not carried out correctly
 

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Yes, I should have probably researched this a little more before posting here, apologies. The source for this comes from amateur chemists and there aren't any official publications to support this
 

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Is so much NaBH4 really necessary or is it excessive
 

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So. You get this pure amphetamine. How much would you cut it ? 1kg amph turn to 2kg ? Because amph cheap profit should come from cutting it or I am wrong?
 

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Our team is study science methods for obtain only pure individual substances. We do not support and do not give recommendations for dilution this compounds to increase mass, yields
 
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