Looking for a vendor Looking for hydrochloric acid 35%-37% vendor

[leopard12]

As the title says, Im looking for a 35-37% hydrochloric acid vendor. Thanks in advance for the help

 

[Zan444]

How much do you need?

 

[CCL4 huffer]

just go to a store and buy HCl they sell 30% for cleaning and then just destill it if u need it rl pure but mostly iron contamination isnt too big of a issiue and in general u dont need it fuming 30% should work just as good u just need to calculate in the difference but that aint too hard.
the hardware store is ur best friend and most reliable suplier.

 

[Zan444]

You cant distill hydrochloric acid.............

 

[CCL4 huffer]

... u ofc can ever heard of a azeotrope? dont spread false if information if u have no clue whatsoever about chemistry.

 

[Zan444]

An azeotrope or a constant heating point mixture is a mixture of two or more components in fluidic states whose proportions cannot be altered or changed by simple distillation. This happens because when an azeotrope is boiled, the vapour has the same proportions of constituents as the unboiled mixture.

Please explain now how you want to do it without total brainfuck. You said destillation so lets go explain how you want to do it by destillation.

 

[CCL4 huffer]

my point was just that u can remove contaminats like iron shit by destilling it i dont eaven know what ur issiue is.

 

[Zan444]

You cant distill hydrochloric acid.............

 

[CCL4 huffer]

then what is this? im smelling a azeotrope

 

[CCL4 huffer]

or if u want sum proof do me a favor just try it out

 

[leefork340]

in azeotropic mixtures, the boiling point of the mixture is different to that of the individual components, when you try to distill a HCL/Water mix the vapor that forms is indeed a different composition, so at small amounts you can indeed distill HCL to some degree, however, the more you try to concentrate it, the composition of the vapor becomes close enough to that of the liquid to form an Azeotrope, at this point simply heating the solution will not cause any additional separation, even if you meet the seemingly required heat to do so, This is because the vapor maintains the same composition as the liquid, if you were to bypass this you would need an additional compound (an entrainer) that can modify the composition of the vapor phase, allowing for further separation by "Breaking" the azeotrope. for an HCL/Water mix you may be able to achieve this with alcohols or organic solvents like Toluene.

This is all to say, just find a good source for higher concentrations as doing it alone at small scale probably wont be cost effective.

 

[darkleo]

pm

 

[Rabidreject]

lol I love some of the arguments on here (so long as I am not the person being called an idiot) been there, done that! Ha jk.
I WILL admit that until recently I didn’t realise you can only get up to a certain % concentration with HCL.
I did know about azeotropes from alcohol but didn’t realise the concentration was so low with HCL (I’m sure a body in a barrel of the stuff would disagree with that assessment!) so I didn’t realise that I actually did have 5L of conc. HCl acid.
Gotta live to learn! I actually have only used the 10% stuff so far tbf.
It was surprisingly hard to obtain in this country via just websites tbf.
now I’m struggling with cyclohexylamine or n-butylamine. There’s ALWAYS something - even when i am doing one RXN I am planning like two RXN’s ahead as I’m now aware how long shit takes to gather!

 

[leefork340]

I don't think OP really realizes the properties of HCL, as HCL is only a concentrated liquid at around 35%, at higher concentrations it'll just bubble off into the air as HCL is a gas in its pure form, this contributes to its shitty distillation qualities, additionally HCL has a high binding to water, so simple distillation past around 20% HCL and 80% Water is rendered impossible since that's the composition that typically forms an Azeotrope for that mix, at least without the presence of a entrainer, but its also important to note that depending on the entrainer you may need to do additional separation to remove the solvents.

 

[leefork340]

Not to mention that shipping HCL at that kind of concentration has heavy regulatory requirements, if you were to ship it domestically without proper paperwork you could risk seriously harming postal workers, which i doubt anyone here supports, In some countries that may even be enough to buy you a terrorism charge.

 

[Rabidreject]

ABSOLUTELY! It was a private shipping company and a 5L container of ‘pool cleaner’ and so they knew exactly what it was - I OBVIOUSLY have a hot tub I’m cleaning for my mum DUH!
Haha it’s pretty handy I DID buy 5L of it coz when I DO use it, which shouldn’t be too far away now - either that or the azeotropic sulfuric acid but that’s another story entirely as it’ll be for salting purposes (at whatever strength is needed - I been learning about volumetric flasks. Pretty interesting.)
I paid through the nose for the shipping on that to be fair…£50 as I recall…
Oh and haha I bought 25g of NaBH4 from APC Pure (great company, not a diss on them at all) and paid like £30 or maybe even £50 for the delivery when the product was like £12 haha
stupid but wotcha gonna do! When you need it you need it - oh wait, do I need it?! Haha oh yeh the NaBH4 I did, iv used it. Was great now need and am waiting for a vacuum chamber + pump

 

[Rabidreject]

I may be the exception with this as I only get drops and drabs of money now and again so I dunno. I’m sure if you are looking to actually sell and invest it’s a different story - I’m a personal use / cognitive liberty guy.
Been to prison for dealing. Don’t want to get involved again so got I to chemistry! Haha

 

[Tovenaar]

In which coutry do you live?