Ephedrine extraction from pills methods

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Yes, you are right.
 

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Can i use 2nd method for extracting chlorpheniramine maleate and pse ?
 

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Yes, you have to do it firstly. I don't know where is your problem. I can't guess and answer you without your detailed procedure explanation.
Okay, google: vm&p naphtha composition
then, you have to chose same one or similar. I think Kerosine is best one. Do you see that you need just use google and ask it? It really works well for simple questions like yours.
 

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may i take it for light petroleum ether (25C to 80C) ? instead of heavy.
 
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Rgr That !
Never know the corresponding equivalent about naphta when its said "no replacement"
naphta= light petroleum ether
i ll tell you if i am still valid after my chemistry performance o_x'
 

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hey, how can I extract 40mg ephedrine HCl from 50mg tablets? the tablets also contain Gelatin
Solani amylum
Lactosum monohydricum
Talcum
Cellulosum microcristallinum (E 460)
Glycerolum 85% (E422) is it enough to dissolve the tablets in water and then filter them and evaporate the filtrate?
 

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please someone HELP MY PILLS CONTAIN THIS
Substances actives : paracétamol,Pseudoéphédrine chlorhydrate

Excipients : Amidon de blé, Amidon de pomme de terre, Lactose, Magnésium stéarate, Sodium carboxyméthylamidon

HOW I GOT PSEUDO PLEASE SOMEONE HELP
 

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I would like to ask Barton Mbuye. According to the literal meaning of "Usage Method 2", I have now completed needle-shaped crystals like Pu Gongying seeds. Barton Mbuye, is it just a "semi-finished product extracted from pills"? Pseudoephedrine cannot be used Blue fire heating in entertainment? You still have to go through a very complicated reduction process. The sodium cyanoborohydride reductive amination process. Or the sodium borohydride reductive amination process. I am now stuck. Please also ask the great Master Barton to point out the inferior ones and break the process of reductive amination. Thank you!
 

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Oh DEAR Alchemists.....

Please listen to my advice here :
--i played this video game on every pill formulations plattform in the universe..., so to speak...

SO THENI
please accept my gift of wisdom in this topic:
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>>> SIMPLE to pull off... EXTRACTION INSTRUCTION <<<<
***************************************************************
[ "FOLLOW UP PRODUCT" will be of hi purity
& up to

QUANTITATIVE YIELDS ]
>> keep mechanical loss small and work with care !!!!!
====================================================
-- EXTENDED RELEASE -- type:

120 mg pseudoephedrine- HCL
5mg C
etirizine 2-HCL


|* anti allergic / decongestant |
should in my opinion always be prefered over other
remedies.

>>>> example, METHOD PROCESSING <<<<<<
~~~ 3 BOXes of 6 Tablets / 720 mg per single BOX ~~


Equipment:

- 250 ml Beaker
- Magnetic Stirrrer
with heating/ stir bar
- 100 ml Syringe (with a large outlet Tip)
will be used as "charmin Filter" Column
- 250 ml Round-Bottom Flask with tiny am. of Ice Water
| used as Lid for the beaker, for nice Reflux- action |
- Evaping Dish for crystalization

Solvents / other Chemicals

25ml
of dry Acetone (tech grade)

150 < 200ml of denatured Ethanol (94 - 96 % vol.)

20m ofl 2-Propanol (99%)

=================================
THE PROCEDURE !


First throw the WHOLE PILLS in to the Beaker,
add the ACETONE, this will break the Glue / Binders -

you`ll notice the Pills degrading to a gooey powder mass instantly.
swirl them a bit around in the Vessel,
now add the first dash of Ethanol (150ml) at Once.

Put the RBF with Cold Wather on top of Beaker,
heat your Plate up to 150*C , keep moderate constant stirring .
let the Pill -MASS dissolve completely / till Liquid looks like
Milk / all big chunks have become a fine powder, thats settling at Bottom.

Prepare the Big Food Syringe , to act as a Filtration Column:

1.) Use Charmin -like multi Layered Paper towel----> Seperate
one Layer off the single Sheet, now shred it in to a nice Pile
of fluffy little Tissue pieces by Hand...

pack those paper towel shreds in to the Syringe, after Pulling out its Plunger .

make a nice Filtration Layer ,
Compress it till the spaces are covered, but not to tight !

Solvate the Filtering Material with Ethanol generously....

NOW POUR THE HOT EXTRACTION Mass trough the
prepared filter syringe-column... ( let it suspend , clamped on to
lab -stand like you would do with common condenser etc.)

RINSE THE BEAKER with additional 50mls of EtOH

if filtering is complete --> ! USE THE SYRINGE PLUNGER
PUT IT BACK IN TO SYRINGE, where the " Pill -Mush "is now
on top of the charmin layer....

NOW PRESS EVERY LAST DROP OUT OF THE SYRINGE CONTENT

Pour the Milky X-tract in a large pyrex dish,
throw a stirbar in,
turn heat up to 250*C
keep a nice and steady but slow stirring,
let a portable strong handheld Fan blow Air over evaporating SURFACE
try to keep around 65*C temperature and gently boiling will quickly evape the Solvents
away!

<<<< VENTILATION OF WORKSPACE IS REQUIRED >>>>>>>>>>

lower the heat until you have a crude crystaline layer left in DISH

now flush WITH A GENEROUS AMOUNT OF DRY n COLD ACTEONE
USE SPATULA Scrape and finely divide de crystalline Mass in the Acetone, rinse it 2-3 times that way, COLLECT the Acetone Washings put em a side ( the antihistaminic is now outta the way....)

Now redissolve theCrude PSE HCL in a sufficient amount of isopropanol, until completely dissolved...

filter trough granulated active carbon / britta filter and fine filter paper..

let the PSE CRYSTALS SLOWLY FORM AT ROOM TEMP. , rinse them a final time with tiny bit of ACETONE.


YOU SHOULD NOW BE LEFT WITH ALMOST EVERY BIT OF SOURCE MATERIAL, IN A PERFECT
FORM OF MANY NEEDLE LIKE CRYSTALS 1

IF YOU FOLLOW MY iNSTRUCTION
i guarantee you A impressive result IN purity + quality

IMPORTANT ADVICE
AVOID PILLs THAT CONTAIN
> POVIDONE<
AT ALL COST

Because they require to much extra pre-treatment....

==============
__** NOTE **_____
>
IBUPROPHENE <

separation> the
-" easy way"
----->
LIKE THIS:

in case you have to use ibuprofene containing pills, ground /mortar them as fine as possible,
Use Mineral Spirits/ lighter Fluid or absolute dry / chilled Acetone
completely cover the powder with liquid,

stir with mag strir,/
lett pill mass settle,

DISCARD THE SOLVENT / REPEAT STEP A SECOND TIME. IF YOU LET IT STAND ,

YOULL NOTICE A BIG & SPARKLING
IBUPROFENE CRYSTAL "MOUNTAIN" WILL APPEAR OUT OF THE LIQUID:

LET THE TREATED PILL POWDER DRY COMPLETELY BEFORE YOU FURTHER PROCESS:



SO THAT WOULD BE MY CONTRIBUTION IN THIS FIELD OF WORK,

I INVESTED TIME & LOVE TO THIS WRITEUP; HOPE some will enjoy it
cheers
 

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This is great advice that I try to tell people but is hard to explain to people doing these things for the first time. They need to focus on getting the procedure completed correctly and then they can worry about mechanical losses., you know?

I talk about having to do things with no equipment and improvise. My answer to this was to pack a turkey baster with a cotton ball and some magnesium sulfate and then I can feed it with gravity, or if I am impatient, I can blow it through the tube with my mouth 20-30ml at a time.

When you are working with 1g-3g amounts - this is to say, a single box of ephedrine/pseudo, and trying to get a batch of meth out of it. You can easily lose most if not ALL of your product with mechanical losses, even an acetone wash or re crystallization will wash away your goods and leave you wondering what went wrong. Working with these micro amounts will teach you proper techniques and lab etiquette quickly, as well as problem solving and trouble shooting skills. It is important to start here, and with control batches, and master them with confidence before you move on to larger scale batches.
 

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THANKS FOR APPRECIATION; I SEE YOU COMPREHEND FULLY MY INNOVATIVE AND SIMPLIFICATION EFFORTS.

I AM REALLY overwhelmed how many positive vibes this got ....THANK YOU ALL. there will soon follow a storm of such wisdom in articles by me....I TRY TO HELP THE SUBSTANCE RE-BIRTH...

TIME TO BRING BACK THE 1G-> amount enough for a tweaker stash that last 1week....not one day....FUCK THE BIG IMPOSTER CRYSTALS.....get HIGH or otherwise collect quartz minerals....and you have your big orthorhombic tetrahedron obelisk shit.....but meth has to punch your mind + genitals straight outta ya undies....onto heaven and 2 times back again....Ya KNOW MAAAN....lil opaque white shiny flakes or needles....THATS THE REAL DEZOXYNE
 

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yo nice write up bro
pills with 5mg of levocetizine, which is another antihistamine, got told to look up smurf dope on the hive, because there's a solvent called Trichloroethylene that may have been used to seperate the antihistamine from the psuedo, or the psuedo from the antihistamine, not sure yet which one it is. have you heard of this method?
 

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yeah my fellow i know this genre with TCE....back in the Beeliever Days.... it was user "Video Editor" who swore like a deciphel on TCE, mostly found in some Brake-Cleaners etc.

BUT !!!!-> !!!


TCE is extreme unhealthy and Poisonous ( in fact all poly-chlorinated / halogenated- hydrcocarbons are,

but this one is really dangerous, because it bonds uncontrollable on every freakin Basepair of your DNA ! it is really new to me anyways, that this is required or preferred for the x-traction of ceterizine-salts....(i use the german reactine duo, with Ceterizine 2-Hcl by the way, also 5mg...)

SOOOO mister, to shortkut this referendum here:

use my writeup, as i wrote , if you vaped the powder mass out of the ethanolic filtrate, to maximum possible dryness, without burning , of course. the flash the powder with a good Splash of tech-grade/or higher (dry!) ACETONE , be generous, then finely divide the powder mass while covered with now warmed up ACETONE, decant it off , repeat 1x - 2x - Times.

(collect the yellow tinted rinsing fluid in a tiny vessel, for later batches or collect it over time and re base residual pse out...


I CAN ASSURE YOU THIS REMOVES THE CET: YOU WANT TO GET RID OFF PERFECTLY WITHOUT CHLORINATING YOUR GENOME !

DEAL?

if you need more info , iam open to support!


CHEERS YOUR HOMIE
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ELEUSIUS,
the UNFORGOTTEN
Lord of MYSTER!OUS......
 

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I just wanted to add what the pseudoephedrine-containing pills described were called in Germany.
namely 1x Reactine Duo 120mg Pseudo/5mg Ceterizin 6pcs/pack or if not in stock
Rhinopront combination tablets 60mg Pseudo/5mg Tip... 12pcs./pack
everybody can buy them without a recipz
 

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yes but to be precise: RHINOPRONT will not work by this procedure... because of the binding agent called "povidone".

especially if you proceed with iodine . it could end in a very low yielding result of minor quality...

avoid rhino if possible...but there are some wayarounds the povidone...but to tedious ....
 

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Using method 2 and starting with 2.88g available PSE I got back 2.0g so 69.44% my MEK is a few years old its a 1 gallon can half full from bodyshop supply and I spaced off drying it before use. I'm thinking the rest of the PSE was washed into the collection flash with all the other solvents. Do you have a process to recover that? Maybe put in freezer and filter the solids? Thanks so much for your posts G.Patton I've learned allot in the few days I've been on here
I should say I used Reactine Complete from Canada
Active
5mg certified hcl
120mg pse hcl

Inactives
Croscarmellose, hypromellose, lactose, magnesium stearate, microcrystalline cellulose, polyethylene glycol, silicon dioxide, titanium dioxide.
 

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there is problem i think with centezirine .. propably mess and infect pse and after reaction .. i dont like blue or greenish meth . ble
 

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CETERIZINE-2-HCL IS VERY SOLUABLE IN ACETONE . Pseudoephedrine HCL on the other Hand NOT !

USE THE METHOD I POSTED, i make my stash Meth with Reactine ext.Release (120mg + 5mg Cet.)
Done that 1000x over last years....

I get every mg out of the Pill-Mass and i use the LWR (long-wet - Reflux ) Method with HI/P

whereby i have quantitative Yield !

its Clean, Easy and if one attaches a Balloon on to Condenser it is Safe ! only the reaction Time of at least 12Hrs. is annoying....but i NEVER GOT BETTER CRYSTAL METH (i tried every variant - made by very well trained Chemists, like i consider myself) but if i use one puff in a glass Pipe....after exhaling, my Neck-Hair will stand and a sudden Relievieng-Rush overcomes every single Celll in my organism...


3Boxes Reactine DUO f. European Country.... (0,72 g / Pck.)

equal 2,0 g when i am lazy....and exactly 2,16 g when i am precise.

the SYRINGE FILTER IS WHAT I DEVELOPED TO MAX OUT MY YIELD. once i recognized, that mechanical loss is the main yield killer.
 

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i had offered withou cleaned histaminic from pills so it was cooked with and had aceton with self ... but not-succesful with removing coloring / it shown after melted/ and had nasty taste ..
 

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I did try your technique however I couldn't find a syring or a brita filter so I made a make sift squeeze funnel with a small plastic liquor bottle with 3 pinhole in the cap upside down with a toilet paper plug in the neck and a pair of vice grips to squeeze that worked well but I used loose activated carbon and a filter paper and didn't get a clean product. I will get the essentials and try again. Is methanol ok or does it need to be ethanol.
I'm a newbe to the cook though I did complete a small one 20 years ago and haven't tried again since then. I really like your small cook recipe.
Any pointers on HI? I have everything else
 

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your substitutes should be sufficient. yes methanol is just fine. but be careful its more toxic to inhale the vapors, please ventilate the area intensely. you can go blind otherwise.

rip a single layer off of the charmin/kitchen-paper towel, and then rip it further to small pieces, thats the most efficient filtering step. if you only aim to get product that is psychoactive, leave the active carbon away. i write my tutorials with the optimum results in mind...
 

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The instructions for method 2 say not to replace Naphtha VM&P with petroleum ether. After checking with Google, I found out that Naphtha VM&P is a synonym for petroleum ether with the same cas-no-8030-30-6. Is this correct?
 

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Yes, Naptha and petroleum ether are the same thing in theory. Formula may differ with brand. It is mid range hydrocarbons.
 

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Why haven't you announced all the ingredients of the pills you are extracting so we know this extraction will remove all the ingredients of the pills we have or to look for suitable pills? If I do this extraction, how will I know that I have obtained pure pseudo without impurities? Some of us are not chemists and it is very difficult for us to understand some things.
 

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3 medicine boxes produce clean white needles
 

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try heat melt evap if you see colouur change
 

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Before putting it into the test tube, I have dissolved it with h2o and washed it with dcm then recrystallized
 
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