Question Indicators which sellers to trust

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Hi there,

I am wondering how to understand, which vendors to trust. I know of the "trusted vendors" (there are only few) and of the escrow service.
Still, on the user profile, it only states deals (e.g. 2), reaction score (17), badges (1), points (3)... How to read this? Does it mean, the vendor has so far only sold twice (2 deals)? Is there a list of vendors who have proven trustworthy?

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afaik the "deals" section only counts deals with escrow, so they could have sold more but it wont show up because the site has no way to tell. like ive gotten shit off here before but it says my deals r 0 because its just free samples so i didnt need to pay.

reaction score is just how many likes they get on their posts/replies. it helps gauge how liked they are in the community. doesnt have much to do with selling but i would probably trust a dealer with a higher reaction score since it shows theyre integrated.

i think the badges are just stuff like "new member", "member", and "resident". we all only have one, but it helps tell you how long the user has been on the site. new members have been active for less than a month. members have been active for about a month. residents have been active for at least 2 months. there are other categories like new sellers, sellers, manufacturer sellers, etc, but i dont know much about them. all i know is that you have to show proof (like your lab setup) if you want to be a manufacturer seller.

points dont really mean anything. just neat little things like "oh this person got 25 likes so they get 3 points" or something like that. its cute but doesnt say much lol. you can see what points are for what "achievement" on their profiles if youre interested :3

if you want to know which vendors to trust, look at reviews. even trusted vendors can have bad products sometimes. take all reviews into account but the ones with pictures are certainly worth more

hope this helped ^_^
 

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Trusted vendor who will be always on stage is the one who cares about his all type of customers, those little too. Availability 12/7 should be standard. For me personally i dont get those "vendors" who dont need contact with their customers. Someone maybe just want to talk or ask something. Not only money money money. Everything is NOT always about money. Have a nice day to all
 

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As a former mail order business owner for 8 years, I'll tell you. There is no end to the askholes who want you to train them to be your competition for free. Many insist it is their right to waste your time with 100 questions and never buy anything. Experienced sellers don't have a lot to say. You say what you want. They tell you if they have it or can get it. You pay the escrow. You get the shit. You release the funds. Nothing else has to be said. One vendor on this site has not messaged me during 5-6 deals a single time.
It's reasonable to have a question but there's no guarantee the vendor knows the answer anyway. 90% of the purity claims on the dark web are erroneous. Many reviewers have no prior experience with the substance they are reviewing. There are no absolutes or guarantees on the dark web. You can't contend a product without being able to test it. "This feels weird" or " it's a little weak " don't cut it A substantial reagent kit and some research is the minimum mandatory homework
 
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i once ordered from a market on tor and the vendor was asking me for shipping tips, needless to say i cancelled that order lmao
 

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I did still give him some tips based on my own experience shipping to/from my country though, it just did not inspire much confidence that he didnt know if the country needed to be on the parcel.
 

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also a reagent kit is a MUST if you're ordering from any source, street or online it doesn't matter, even if the vendor themselves thinks the product is clean, you have no idea if they sourced it from someone else that claimed it was clean but it actually wasn't, as for purity there's no real easy way to test that at home for most drugs, at least not without a spectroscopy or chromatography setup.

I've seen some good results testing certain compounds via TLC, but Colorimetric tests are hard to accurately determine purity from, and will only give you a roundabout estimate, if you need to test at home, at least for amphetamine purity i would recommend using recrystallization for best results, especially if you're going to be weighing out doses for some other purpose like pill pressing.

I've heard that some people have had good results by using simple Melting Point Analysis for testing the purity of sulfate amphetamines.

There are also portable mass spectrometers but those are very expensive, i was able to source one for relatively cheap luckily.
 

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Last thing ill note is, if you're testing amphetamines just remember that derivatives like methamphetamine and other amphetamine isomers cannot be easily isolated using most reagent tests, Especially the most common for testing amphetamines, that being the Marquis reagent.

If you're mostly concerned about methamphetamine being substituted then the only colorimetric test I can think of that might give some discernable difference would be the Freohde reagent, but that is still unreliable.
 

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I have heard of a reagent called Simons that may be able to clarify a result from a test like Marquis as it supposedly doesn't react to your standard variety amphetamines, but still reacts positively to methamphetamine, but I'm not really sure on the validity of that claim and i have my doubts since it still works through detecting the amines themselves, so i dont really think there would be a noticeable difference.
 

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No such thing, we're here to learn. Marquis reagent is 19/1 sulfuric acid/formaldehyde. I have that at home.
I prefer to use titratration for purity testing, A melt test can come in handy when you add the titration results. You, for instance, know this cocaine titrated 70%, now the melt test can give you an accurate measurement of the melting point of the adulterants.
I keep this in my sd card so I can make a plan of what reagents I can use to identify drugs.
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Is the reaction of methamphetamine and amphetamine really that blatent with simons? I dont what the mechanism of detection is for that reagent but, i haven't heared of a reagent that can reliably tell different Amines apart, without additional testing.
 

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Ah well, i did some research and yeah Simon's can actually identify secondary and primary amines separately, which is something i was not aware of.

ill have to do some tests with the samples of methamphetamine i have stored.
 

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As for this site I'm not sure as I've never ordered from a seller here, and I'm not sure many would even be shipping to my country, but in the past i have quite often seen methamphetamine being sold as 4MMC and Adderal, all the way to to concerta even, i personally do not have good reactions to methamphetamine, which i suspect is due to its ability to cross the blood-brain barrier much easier, i'm diagnosed ADHD and my primary reason for using non-pharmaceutical sourced amphetamines is due to the fact i have been blocked from getting the prescription due to other recreational drug use.
 

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I do not typically order pressed Adderall my preference is Speed pressed into my own pills, i can control the dosage and it works well for my ADHD in my experience, my main concern is getting something like a Synthetic Cathinone instead of an actual amphetamine, Even when i trust a seller i typically always test new shipments since there's no telling their supply chain and if its made by themselves or from another source that may not be truthful to them, and unfortunately i have met very few vendors that actively test their own product for impurities or cut drugs.
 
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Based on what i've tested and what i learnt during my time studying pharmacology, there is little effective different between speed and adderal when the amine is correctly listed, with proper dosage the effects of speed are about equal, the benefit being i don't have to wait months for a refill, and i can continue to use other non-stimulant recreational drugs without having to worry about a random drug test by my doctor and losing the adderal prescription.

Speed is also just way cheaper for the dosage range that i typically fall into, 1 gram of decent speed can make me around 20-30 individual pills depending on the dosage set with the same level of effects as the adderal, for a fraction of the price.
 

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Simons specifically reacts with amines. There's 2 formulations of Simons. One has 2% aldehyde and the other 2% acetone (in part A) w/aldehyde it reacts to primary amines ( like amp or mda) and with acetone it reacts to secondary amines(meth and MDMA for example) Simons is only an amine test
 

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So vendors with lots of sales and a majority of positive reviews (not a lot of negative reviews as of lately. ) These are always a good bet. I do like to know if the vendors is somewhat active, so i send a BS question that can be answered with a yes or no. Vendors dont want to have to spend 6 hours replying to messages. An example would be "Is your weed outdoor grown?". Last use the escrow. Thats your safety net. If you build a good report with your vendor you may choose to do direct deals. Just know you could lose your money
 

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@fidelis my profile says 0 deals, so I assume it only counts when you sell something because I've bought quite a few things.
@leefork340 there are "trust vendors" on this site. I've got a lot of things from one. Never had a single issue from his end. Once I put the address off by 1 number and sent $400 worth of meth and cocaine to the wrong house.
 
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yeah same, i bought something and my deal counter didnt change. i asked heisenberg about it and he said it only goes up if ur the seller. sucks but whatever ig
 

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It really stung to hit that " complete deal" when I didn't get the shit but it was my own fault and it was an expensive mistake by me. I still haven't really recovered from a financially. I'm on her buying 1/4 oz and shit that order was announcing meth
And two grams of cocaine
. Both of which I got from the guy before and was pleased with also his ecstasy
 

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nah i feel that, i bought 100 dollars worth of various drugs (cat, molly, etc) from someone and i think it may have got seized but i paid anyway since he needed the money for shipping. i got a tracking number and everything, its been stuck in the warehouse scan since the 29th... not looking good. i know 100 isnt a lot but im broke lol

sorry that happened to you though :c
 
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