Question Looking for a vendor Gamma-Butyrolactone GBL/GHB

[evolutionzzz]

The goal in mind is to obtain GBL or GHB. Anyone reading this knows all the problems that come with that. So, looking for some help.
So my customers do not like BDO, when I say do not like, I mean they HATE IT. They however seem to love GBL & GHB of course (who knows)
Anyways, we all know its becoming more and more difficult to get your hands on it, especially without getting scammed a dozen times first. This post was going to be asking how to synthesis it but I am no chemist, i have ZERO knowledge in that field and i imagine any attempt I would make would result in fire. Lots of fire. I also won't/can't pay the ridiculous $1500+ that people sell it for on most of these markets.
Before I get flooded with offers from people telling me to western union/send bitcoin/etc... Don't waste both our time. Any transaction I do, will be through a payment platform like the breaking bad market. Something with an escrow service, I am not dumb and NO EXCEPTIONS...

Ideas I have to obtain it:
1) Just buying it. Of course this would be ideal, to find a supplier who may be browsing and see this post. But I am not very optimistic. AGAIN, NOT BUYING BDO.
2) Finding a way to order it from Sigma Aldrich or a retailer of them. I attempted to create an account using a legit business, but it didn't work. Especially at the price they sell it for, this would be the ideal route. I had seen someone suggest to another person here to go through a company that purchases from Sigma Aldrich but my attempt failed (they denied it because they said they don't ship to the United States but i imagine they would have denied it either way due to the legal issues) Maybe someone is aware of a person/company who has the ability to purchase from them and sells on a darkweb market?
3)Synthesis.... I would like to think I am very intelligent and resourceful... Which also means I know my limitations. Is there a process that could be done by an amateur without a lab and not the biggest budget?
4) Separating from a legal product... I know there are legal products with GBL in them. Is there a product that is mostly GBL, inexpensive, and would be relatively easy to work with? By easy I mean: separation by heating/freezing or using a chemical or something to separate.
5) GHB in Dried/Crystal form: I saw a seller that had GHB in a crystal form? This way shipping would be much easier and they claim that you can use distilled water and thats it. Their pricing isn't as bad as GBL on the market but its still far too expensive.

All in all I am trying to get GBL or GHB 5-10L at a time for a decent price. And 1 last time for all the spammers, I AM NOT INTERESTED IN BUYING BDO.

 

[JohnWebb]

What about GABA into GHB route, dehydrogenation of 1,4-BDO into GBL or synthesis of GHB from tetrahydrofuran? I don't think it's that complicated.
Look HERE - maybe it will help you.

 

[Mr Gonzo]

Was going to say it is possible that GHB is one if the most easiest synthesis to perform, straight after extractions from plants!

 

[Cranston]

GBL to GHB is really very easy. And GBL still legal in many parts of the world. It can be bought as a cleaner. (Actually it is a very good cleaner)
They were discussing in the WHO of banning GBL, decided against it.

 

[Inferior]

in europe is cheap and easy to get on clearnet look indusclean and website like that
Is possibile use forwarding service too dm me if u need more info Is easy

 

[PNicole]

Here is a tip: There is a way to obtain industrial cleaning products which will contain up to 80% GBL.The rest will be naphta and other non-polar solvents. GBL is a degreaser and it is hard to replace. To get GBL, you have to go through legal companies and ask for MSDS and all safety documentation. It will not say "GBL cleaner" on the label or something stupid. It will be a de-greaser.

They will not give you the exact the percentage but it will be a range. Usually 60-80% and it may likely be 80%. Now you could waste your time doing fractional distillations, carbon treatments and filtration through celite but in the end, if you have an idea of how much GBL is in the mix, you simply add the amount of water needed for the finished concentrated GHB product. I believe it was 3 X (do not remember off the top of my head.)

Then the non polar layer will for on top. It was surprisingly easy to separate. Add the required NaOH in solid form to turn into GHB. Make sure none of the "adulterants" in the formula could be water soluble. Remember, there is a big difference between the word Degreaser and "GBL" for packing lists. Either way, you should always be cautious.

 

[41Dxflatline]

Sounds like you need some Multi Gel Remover®

It's GBL and just cellulose.

 

[1019er]

U got a good resource and a way to separate it?
I think that's then only brand which can be purchased more then less easily/legally.
I have not found a better alternative..

 

[41Dxflatline]

Salt

 

[1019er]

U got a tutorial?

 

[41Dxflatline]

Tutorial:
1. Put a bit of salt in it
2. Shake
3. Repeat until liquid
4. Filter out the gunk

 

[Mr Gonzo]

Yeah GHB is a simple synth.

 

[Chemical Ali]

Very easy to synthesize. Someone mentioned the GABA to GHB route. This is called the Sandmeyer reaction BTW.

SWiM can second this recommendation, he makes it this way himself on a regular basis as the Sodium salt (crystals of Na-GHB).

Kind regards,
Ali

 

[metux]

Ghb powder,dosage its very uknown for my,its seems you need take a lot,to get effects,people try 3grams,and they complain with no effect,oil with alcohol works very well.