Question fluorinated amphetamines

[sadow]

What amphetamines can be insufflated? In psyconautwiki there are some that show inflated consumption and others not? I have 3-fma that they gave me by mistake and when insufflating it is very painful and in the wiki it does not have insufflated consumption. They made a mistake in the order. I bought pellets. Any recommendation? I haven't used amphetamine in like 6 years and I don't remember if it hurt that much.

maybe my nose is broken from all the cut cocaine i've taken all this time

Does anyone like the RC theme? I discovered it recently and it caught my attention. but the pills, to buy 3fma I buy real amphetamine that is cheap

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

I read in a book somebody had really clean 4-fluoro, twice purified and he had no discomfort with sulphate.The corresponding aldehyde and propene however...close to benzil chloride if in hot solution.

 

[sadow]

and how can i purify it? If it is very complicated, could I crystallize it?

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

You can perform acid base a/b purification, check out the thread in this section.Instead of solvent extraction you can do steam distillation for max purity.
You can wash salt with dry acetone.
You can recrystalize from hot alcohol.

That's about what you could do practically.

 

[sadow]

Could you provide me with the link of the post? How is that for steam distillation?

 

[HerrHaber]

steam distillation is a procedure involved only in the purification of the freebase and it's pretty cumbersome for small amounts (you must freebase the aqueous solution of the salt {tens of grams} adding lye to it until the pH rises then pass a stream of steam through the heated solution that you collect using a distillation bridge condenser, in a nut shell)

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

Amphetamine purification by acid-base extraction

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[sadow]

It would be easy for me to crystallize it. I need alcohol and that's it, isn't it?

 

[Mr Good Cat]

If we are talking about steam distillation of the FB performed w/o expensive lab equipment, I mean with a basic distillation kit + hotplate + vacuum compressor, how much time does it usually take to distill 500 ml of the FB and what is expected yield in percentage? Probably surface temperature must be controlled between 110-130, right?

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

Can't say exactly but basic is all you need, no vacuum needed.Besides I have never distilled 500ml of base (excluding solvents).
Losses are practically 0 because in fact you are removing your impurities and solvent, not product.On this subject I have tried both under N2 flux and atmospheric and it dosen't make much difference.
Your RM will go up to 110 ish at most depending on water soluble impurities, no idea about surface temperature of the plate, temp. is measured with probe inside usually, the surface of the plate dosen't tell you that much.
It is important if you are using a plate to wrap your apparatus in foil to insulate as well as possible, for quick and trouble free results your whole installation needs to be hot up to the point at which the condenser start cooling the vapor.

 

[HIGGS BOSSON]

I have synthesized 2-FA and 4-FA many times. It feels like these substances are no different from amphetamine after inhalation. But 4-FA gives a better effect when taken orally. Interesting substances, 2-FA gives mild stimulation with euphoria, and 4-FMA is very similar to MDMA.

 

[sadow]

Is there an easy way to clean the amphetamine so that I can inhale well? would it work with alcohol ipa? Or is it better to use dry acetone?

because i doubt it can crystallize into bigger crystals

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

recrystalization is a purification technique, the point is to retain contaminants in the liquid phase, not necessarily grow bigger crystals

 

[HerrHaber]

if the product is really dirty one must perform a "by the book" recrystalization procedure that first involves a hot filtration of the boiling solution to which activated charcoal is added and filtered while hot before leaving the solution to cool (careful though, when adding the charcoal to the boiling solution it foams and the funnel must be really hot, obviously vacuum is a must)

 

[sadow]

when inhaling it is unpleasant, I would like to be able to clean it, I am not an expert. I can do a cleanse with IPA. I can also get ethyl alcohol without bitrex to be able to do a recrystallization. the 3-fmp has a solution in ethanol of 30mg-ml approx. I would have to look at the pdf again to confirm it. what would be the easiest to do? I don't see myself being able to do the base separation either

do I do both? cleaning and recrystallization? If I cannot inhale, I prefer crystals to add to the drink, since adding the sulfate is more difficult for me to dose and calculate. I prefer to be able to take it through the nose but being clean and without pain if I can't get that I would like to be able to make crystals to put it in the drink or at least granules or something more consistent

if cleaning with IPA serves to be able to inhale I forget to recrystallize. to explain if i can't clean myself enough somehow get granules or cristsles

 

[sadow]

I see myself capable of doing that. except for the emptiness but something will occur to me

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

If you're gonna wash with something do so with cold dry acetone.IPA will work too but this especially needs to be dry and cold.
I think mister Haber is over-complicating this for you a little, normal recryst. will clean up your product decently, no vacuum needed. Simply heat some methanol or IPA to boiling and drop that hot alcohol little by little to solve all your powder.Then simply leave this undisturbed on top of your freezer and pop it IN the freezer after it's come down to room temp.

 

[G.Patton]

Amphetamines (phenylethylamines)==>Amphetamine purification by acid-base extraction​

 

[sadow]

It depends on how much it costs to purchase the dry acetone. They sell acetone as a paint thinner and I see some nail polish removers that claim to be 100% acetone. I don't know if I can get pure dry acetone. IPA is easy to find.

 

[HerrHaber]

I had plenty of trouble with the nail polish grade acetone in my begginings and it always turned out to be at least 50% water but I guess this depends on where you are at, distillation is of course a solution to the problem (as nail polish remover is a solution of acetone in water, hillariously enough). But the practical importance of acetone (or at least MEK) is so great that I can also imagine a determined person to actually synthetize it from IPA by mild oxidation (reflux with bichromate switched to distillation as indicated by the temperature change since acetone boils at around 55C, constant removal of the product should be easy and purity decent)

 

[sadow]

I do not have laboratory equipment of any kind, to be able to distill acetone I would need a minimum of laboratory glassware

 

[HerrHaber]

True that, I once added anhydrous calcium chloride (lots of it) to nail polish remover grade acetone until it salted out exothermally (mild), then I isolated the upper layer and added more CaCl2 anh. (siccum) that further absorbed water then used the aprox 35% of the initial volume of product as "acetone" it might still not have been pure in an absolute sense but it did the job. Other drying agents I guess would do the trick as well as I recommend checking out the phenomenon of salting out since it's pivotal in ghetto chemistry.