3,4mdp2np reduction

[amieri]

Hope all is well with everyone . Id like to gather some peoples opinions.
I don't ever come across much on MDA purification on this forum or any of the others. Although similar to amphetamine in many ways I have read unlike amph MDA can't be steamed distilled , if this is true my first question is. What is the science behind why it can't be ?
Now let's say mdp2np was reduced via al/hg , basing to a ph of 11 and collection/drying "mgs04" what do y'all like to do? Directly salting with acetone/h2so4 has lead to some really waxy questionable product. Recrystallation in IPA twice left a fluffy white powder.
My next thought was vacuum distillating the solvent off then resolving in acetone and salting same as before which left a still somewhat waxy product that recrystallized same as before.
Id like to try a/b washing and fractional distillating of the fb.my question is with 10 gram reductions of propene do I need a micro distillation set? Also how does the fb come over? Is it a bumping/jumping type thing or will it actually turn to a vaper ? Any pointers,tips or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
You all please stay amazing and be safe.thanks in advance

 

[HIGGS BOSSON]

We will soon have a video on the synthesis of MDA from helional, and there we will show the methods of purification.
As far as I remember, the processes with MDP2np went the same way as with p2np

 

[amieri]

I check every morning for it ,can't wait higgs you all are such inspirations thanks for being u

 

[Rabidreject]

I am reducing some md-p2np right now using the NaBH4 / CuCl2 method.
If it works a fraction as well as my 3,4,5-TMONS worked, I’ll be happy and will let you know.
I’m not hugely surprised you needed to re-x it though, particularly if you didn’t re-x the md-p2np before reducing. (Only because I know where you got your md-p2np from!)

Im looking up methods of converting to the phenylacetone now tbh.

Would a simple alkaline hydrolysis work do you think?

I'm not even really sure why I’m messing around with this - I really don’t even like to take any of the MD compounds! Ha
It just seems like something I should synthesise…and I’m not sure why!

 

[w2x3f5]

reaction with tin chloride and hydrochloric acid in ethyl acetate, on simple p2np worked well.

 

[Rabidreject]

HCl conc? Interessante, lo studierò

 

[Rabidreject]

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[w2x3f5]

Ho copiato con erowid, l'acido cloridrico può essere usato diluito, funziona benissimo sul solito P2NP:

18,1g (100mmol) di 1-(2-fluorofenil)-2-nitropropene sono stati aggiunti a secco in porzioni a 49,5g (220mmol) di SnCl2-2H2O sospeso in 75ml di EtOAc mentre la temperatura di reazione era mantenuta tra 20-40°C da un bagno di acqua fredda. Quando tutto il nitropropene è stato aggiunto e il colore è diventato bianco (5 minuti), la soluzione di EtOAc è stata trasferita in un pallone RB contenente 250 ml di acqua e 50 ml di acido cloridrico. L'EtOAc è stato rimosso per distillazione a pressione ridotta e la sospensione acquosa di ossima e sali di stagno è stata lasciata agitare a 80°C per 1 ora. La fase acquosa è stata ora distillata in corrente di vapore per eliminare il chetone. Quando non si sono più formate gocce oleose, il distillato è stato estratto con DCM. L'estratto di DCM è stato essiccato su MgSO4 e il DCM è stato rimosso per distillazione, lasciando un chetone abbastanza puro come olio incolore.
Resa: 13,5 g (89%) 1-(2-fluorofenil)-2-propanone
Purezza: 98% (HPLC)
Proprietà: bp 47°C/0,05 mmHg, d 1,077g/ml (secondo il catalogo Aldrich).

 

[amieri]

I'm mid experiment right now trying to produce md phenylaceton from propene with the Nabr4 method posted in the video section.
Ill keep you guys posted

 

[amieri]

I think tin is the next experiment, the borohydride is to expensive these day

 

[Rabidreject]

I am also interested if u can steam distill the freebase of MDA.
Guessing not as you can’t other substituted ones like mescaline but why?

 

[William D.]

I think the quality of your MD2NP was not the best or the synthesis was not done correctly. Perhaps there were problems with the quality of acetone. I did this synthesis many times in your method (Al/Hg), without base distillation. The product is excellent, but MDA is not like amphetamine - this is more psychedelic with visual effects.

 

[amieri]

So the acetone was absolutely the problem back when I posted this.it would drop a waxy type substance. started using ipa instead.
Also gotten the hang of ABE and finally got a short path set up.
Sincerely a 0.05 is beautiful, really makes me question all the moonrooks we use to get on tour though.was always told it was mda but it was big crystalline chunks which I just don't see this stuff forming xtials like that although I've still yet to try gassing

 

[mycelium]

I remember, on your, I was at RFK(93) and ran into someone I knew from the bay, and they turned me onto MDMA and it was amazing, but I got locked up and then I started hearing about all the shit in E pills...
Don't really deal with tour kids anymore, as there's always some shit in the game...back in the day, people had integrity
I ramble...

 

[amieri]

Oh ya now a days I hear the word "family" and it's nothing more than a sales pitch.pretty much a big dick measuring contest of who knows "the guy" lol I had someone try selling "owsly crystal" a few weeks back ten bucks a hit.i politely declined and proceeded to follow him giving a hit to everyone we talked to

 

[mycelium]

Fuck yeah!
My bro told me he knows someone with nick sands crystal, and owsley, etc,
When I was on tour there were only a few kinds of crys...needlepoint, fluff, and amber/champagne....and tornado juice which may have been a RC.
But now everyone is an Internet genius!
Hope you have a good day!
(~);}

 

[amieri]

Hey how many Phish kids does it take to change a light bulb?
10,000 and one dead head to spin them all

 

[amieri]

Do you know what lsd and tartar sauce have in common?
Phish sucks with out them

 

[mycelium]

Lmmfao, I've heard the first one but not the second one. Told my wife and she is laughing....

 

[amieri]

Them just jokes i enjoy Phish with or with out the d-tar25.