Perfect question brother.
I think you can produce 100's of gram of LSD with this substance.
First the methyl ester needs to be hydrolyse into carboxylic acid that is LSA and than convert it into LSD.
Probably 2methods are described here which will convert LSA to LSD.
How to convert ester to acid.? That's very simple. Just add any base into it so acid will be converted into metal salt and pure it. You can find this guide on erowid.
We seriously need attention of experts. @G.Patton @HIGGS BOSSON @William Dampier and @hisenberg
I think you can produce 100's of gram of LSD with this substance.
First the methyl ester needs to be hydrolyse into carboxylic acid that is LSA and than convert it into LSD.
Probably 2methods are described here which will convert LSA to LSD.
How to convert ester to acid.? That's very simple. Just add any base into it so acid will be converted into metal salt and pure it. You can find this guide on erowid.
We seriously need attention of experts. @G.Patton @HIGGS BOSSON @William Dampier and @hisenberg
Hydrolysis of D-Lysergic acid methyl ester with HCl for example will get d-lysergic acid amide(LSA) but you must be careful about temps and times with these products normally low temps and long times are used I don't have the exact numbers of it.
LSA as psychoactive effects by itself similar to LSD but you need bigger doses of LSA for similar effects of LSD.
About LSA into LSD I don't know the exact process but I can search it.
Is what I can help on it ;-)
LSA as psychoactive effects by itself similar to LSD but you need bigger doses of LSA for similar effects of LSD.
About LSA into LSD I don't know the exact process but I can search it.
Is what I can help on it ;-)
Can I ask someone to describe step by step how to make lysergic acid form D-Lysergic acid methyl ester?
Does anyone have enough knowledge or desire to help me? If there is someone who can mentor me, then I would dare to start. A dream would come true. I don't want the help for free.
Does anyone have enough knowledge or desire to help me? If there is someone who can mentor me, then I would dare to start. A dream would come true. I don't want the help for free.
I'm a bit confused but I may be wrong. Why would hydrolysis of D-Lysergic acid methyl ester result in formation of LSA (AN AMIDE) rather than the simple Lysergic acid (Carboxylic acid). Because from what I've observed, when you react an ester with an acid like HCl it forms a carboxylic acid and not an amide. But then again, I may be wrong but it should be like,
D- Lysergic acid methyl ester + HCl --> Lysergic acid which can then turned into LSD without any LSA to LSD fuss.
D- Lysergic acid methyl ester + HCl --> Lysergic acid which can then turned into LSD without any LSA to LSD fuss.
- By thankyou888
LSA is lysergic acid brother.
So you are talking just same thing. LSD is amide LSA is not amide it is just carboxylic acid. Convert lysergic acid to amide.
So you are talking just same thing. LSD is amide LSA is not amide it is just carboxylic acid. Convert lysergic acid to amide.
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- By ICchemist
Look up on the internet mate, Lysergic acid and LSA are two different molecules, Lysergic acid is a direct precursor to LSD-25, also it isn't an active compound and it's derived by hydrolysis of ergotamine. Whereas LSA is an active compound found in morning glory seeds and Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds. Just look it up on the internet, you'll know.
I'm a bit confused but I may be wrong. Why would hydrolysis of D-Lysergic acid methyl ester result in formation of LSA (AN AMIDE) rather than the simple Lysergic acid (Carboxylic acid). Because from what I've observed, when you react an ester with an acid like HCl it forms a carboxylic acid and not an amide. But then again, I may be wrong but it should be like,
D- Lysergic acid methyl ester + HCl --> Lysergic acid which can then turned into LSD without any LSA to LSD fuss.
D- Lysergic acid methyl ester + HCl --> Lysergic acid which can then turned into LSD without any LSA to LSD fuss.
Why don't use it as an end product and produce blotters from this product?
While you can, the dosage regimen being simillar, it’s not a classic psychedelic, effects are mostly on cognition and mood along with body effects(often unpleasent), very weakly psychedelic visually.