Unorthodox 4MMC Synthesis & Setup Advice

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My question is, I know of someone who for obvious reasons remains private and also wont just share his setup details but from conversations where he has mentioned things by accident about how he functions I've come to realise he works very unorthodox in the way that he doesn't use chemistry equipment, instead tubs and easy to access equipment that does not look suspicious. Their 4mmc batch size is 3.75kg per CRYSTALLISED batch and they do these everyday all day, probably up to and above 30 to 40kg a week and they are the ones that I have worked out from conversation. Mind-boggling for me tbh.

My question is how on earth would they manage all of this, he has 2 lads that he pays per kg, I just don't physically understand how they can do so much? Am i missing something, I'm playing about with 100g batches just practicing but even still it's difficult. Any ideas on how or what a setup like this would look like, what would be used etc. Just baffles me. Any secrets of the trade to do such task would be gratefully received. I'm all ears and really want to learn the ins and outs.
 

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I don't have any experience with 4MMC only amphetamines, but I guess the principle still applies the same.

Everything can basically be used for synthesises, the most inventive people are the Polish.

Just look at the "labs" being caught in Poland, 100''ds of kg being produced in shitty barrels, rusty industrial equipment etc, they don't care about quality or yield loss.

It's just a shitty masproduction.
 

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The synthesis of mephedrone is easily scaled, so there are no problems in the synthesis of 1kg or 100kg. You simply load bromoketone with methylamine in a solvent into a large container, turn on the heating with stirring.
 

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U dont need heat if u work with NMP dsmo u only mix 20min and u get freebase
 

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Why NMP, I don't understand the difference of 20 minutes or two hours in DCM, cheaper and easier to clean. DMSO is not a good option, it is very reactive and will give impurities, and then you have to wash off the product.
 

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Heating=piperazine.
 

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Hi hexen I paid you 3k euro and you have not helped me at all
 

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Resolve your showdowns in private messages or use the escrow service to attract the administration
 

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I think you just ripped me off that was unfair
 

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Red freebase shit
Yellow pure
 

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1 photo little bromine when brominating the ketone, a serious impurity of mpf, which will give you a headache when getting salt and different colors of the product =)
2 photo do not store the free base of amino ketone, it deteriorates. The color is still strange, probably water particles in the ketone.
 
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